You would think that they would be happy that their new explaination is getting so much attention. The goal is to preach to the entire earth - what a better way thn through the internet, in this case using YouTube. But no, they claim copyright. Shows to me more damage control, than preaching the good news. CULT!
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You Tube Takes Down Video on DC Release - Copyright Complaint
by cabasilas injust saw that the recent video by watchtower comments on this summer's district convention release with a photo of the script from the sunday convention talk has been taken down by you tube based on a copyright complaint by the watchtower society.. see about 2/3 of the way down this article (it gives the now dead link with you tube's explanation that the wt filed the complaint -- click on the embedded video to see):.
http://orthocath.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/watchtower-leaders-trying-to-salvage-1914-teaching/.
the link to the embedded video worked fine yesterday.. guess they weren't happy about it..... is the text of that script available anywhere?.
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Is the GB setting up to dump 1914?
by karter inwith the "generation change" and them changing it all the time it would make sence to dump it all togeather.. lets face it ,it can be disproved easly.. they dumped 1975 in a heart beat .. this would buy them all the time they wanted as they would just find another date to start the generation from ie: "the u.n year of peace and sercurty'',1986 i belive or whatever else they could think of.. they could sell it to the r&f as easly as they sold 1975,then dumped it when it did'nt happen .. anyone questioning them would be told they are running ahead of jehovah or lacking faith in his earthly org that feeds us food at the proper time .. what do you think?.
karter..
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The new generation explaination (Contemporaries) shows to me that they want to keep 1914 at all cost.
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Stephen Hawking knows more about heaven than Jesus did.
by moshe ini have been watching the discovery channel's, 'into the universe with stephen hawking' and it occurred to me that professor hawking knows more about heaven (which is just part of entire universe) than jesus did.
maybe jesus knew about black holes, alien life, other worlds, the origin of the universe, etc.
jesus could have told us something so remarkable about our universe that it would have taken us 2000 years to confirm jesus' divine knowledge and prove he was the son of g-d, but he instead decided to tell us that heaven "has many rooms"- whoop-dee-doo.. i don't think jesus had a clue that there was anything out the in the physical universe beyond what he could see with his own eyes.
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What I have done is to show that it is possible for the way the universe began to be determined by the laws of science. In that case, it would not be necessary to appeal to God to decide how the universe began. This doesn't prove that there is no God, only that God is not necessary. [Stephen W. Hawking, Der Spiegel, 1989]
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Why would God stop man from building a tower that reached into the "heavens" and yet let modern man reach even further with a space station and moon landings?
by StoneWall inanyone?.
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The Bible is mainly fiction.
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Motorcycle riders: Who are you and what do you ride?
by UnConfused insuzuki boulevard c50 for me.. .
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how long in truth,,,what was the final "straw"
by peaches ini was in for 30 years.....my ex was an elder...."holy spirit appointed" he tortured me....i was married 33+ years....you know,,,marriage is sacred...you can leave,,,i know,,,,if abuse is intolerable....but that starts a series of events...etc etc etc....i finally left everything...and moved far away.....people actually believe "holy spirit" appoints people,,,my ex would not pray unless there was an audience...you know,,,,people invited over for supper kind of thing,,,you get the point..... my best friend had a mental breakdown,,,,she basically became psychotic.....had to be hospitalized....she took up smoking,,,got disfellowshipped...and lost all emotional support....to this day,,,,as far as i know,,,she is still disfellowshipped...needs to be hospitialized every so often....she is on complete disability.....and still trying to get back into the org....her mother does support some what,,,,even though she is a witness herself,,,,,takes her to assemblies,,,,memorial,,,etc,,,,this has gone on for years.....she cannot mentally handle the organization,,,nor can she mentally handle not being a witness...lost everything....guilt....etc..... did not mean to ramble on so much......i have mental scars that will not go away....because i stayed in a "mess" for god,,,,i could write page after page of things like the above....as being my "last straw".......curious about you here on the board....any specific "breaking point" or a collection of many things..... thanks for your in put...peaches.
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Last straw was taking receipt of the "God's Love" book at the 2008 district convention and seeing its unloving manipulative controlling approach (rather than any "reform") is what got me to finally research my years long doubts starting with ordering and reading "Crisis of Conscience".
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The new song book
by bobld ini know it's has been mentioned before but my 2$ worth.iam sure if they (j.w.
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"also over 90% would agree and would not bat and eye.. knowing that the wbts published this (garbage) song book over 90% agree what a great song book.talk of brainwashed people.i can't stand the music, it sounds like some kindergarden kid is taking piano lessons.did they not rehearse.it is awful the the dough heads won't admit it.i say they will do a re-issue,revision 2 next year.. bob.
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The title of the New Songbook should be: Sing Praises to the Governing Body. Two examples:
Song 51/11: Making Jehovah’s Heart Glad
Old Book (Song 51):
2. May we from your side never move;
A liar the Tempter we would prove.
Your principles and laws so right
We would make daily our delight.
New Book (Song 11):
2. Your slave, your steward here on earth,
Proclaims your greatness and your worth,
Feeds us with nourishment when due,
Thus strengthens us your will to do.
Song 174/43: Stay Awake, Stand Firm, Grow Mighty
Old book (Song 174):
2. "In his place each one be heeding, what Christ Jesus has to say"
New Book (Song 43)
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well, they finally caught up to the april wt
by booby inbut as anticipated not only is it not a problem but rather prompts expressions like this.
"it just highlights to .
mean just how awesome and loving jehovah is.
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The two responses I got from elders so far were:
1. We simply cannot understand in what ways the holy spirit works with the FDS/GB
2. Our worship of Jehovah should not depend on Chronology
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ANOTHER GILEAD STUDENT
by not sure yet ini've been reading this forum a for some time now.
since i find myself on a crossroad i decided to start participating.
i was at gilead in 1980 and remember standing in de elevator alone with ray franz, how just gave us a lecture.
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Not sure whether he posts here, but we have another ex-gilead at www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com. His user name is "awakend @ gilead"
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anybody ever read "crisis of conscience" and then confessed to elder ?
by inbetween inif so, what happened ?.
does it constitue a reason for a jc ?.
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Depends on where you live and how liberal the Elders are. I literally read from it during a visit from two elders and openly discussed the content with another. No problem whatsoever. However, in other locations it is an immediate JC.